Can Women Join The Clergy?

Recently two different Christians that I know well have asked me what I thought about woman’s in ministry,

“Can a woman be a pastor?, Can a woman run a church?”

My answer to that is quite simple, no, but its not a no for the reason you might think.

The modern definition of pastor, the job title as the guy at the top of a hierarchy. The person who orchestrates church meetings. The person who is “in charge” of the church.

I recently watched a male pastor cry before his congregation about his insecurities and struggles in following God. After 30 minutes of this he said crying “well… and I am your leader…” and continued in the struggles and confessions of confusion, difficulty and turmoil. It was refreshing honesty about his weakness and need for others and his need for help.

This man was not qualitied to be leading Christians around, but not becuase of anything to his fault. No Christian is. The best of the best is not qualified for that. Paul himself would plant churches, disciple the new believers and train them to be led of the Spirit then he would leave them alone to the leadership of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. He did not place himself or his loyal men over that body of Christians. He was sensitive and careful not to overstep his place and intrude on the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

The role of pastor that the vast majority of protestant Christianity (and the role of Priest in Catholacism) has embraced does exactly that. It intrudes on the Spirit of Christ over other Christians. It usurps itself over the Holy Spirit. Amazingly most the time these other Christians crave that intrusion because they don’t know how to be led of the Spirit. I craved exactly that for most of my time as a Christian.

I love and appreciate pastors but don’t look to them for much of anything. I don’t look to them for anything beyond what I look to any Christian for. Fellowship, friendship and if fortunate inspiration from the spirit of Jesus. But not leadership. If they say or teach something that I know is not of God I don’t get mad at them. Any more than any Christian. Most of them mean well, most of them are just meeting a demand in the body of Christ. But as they meet that demand it does not necessarily mean they are following the spirit of Christ. Nor that I should listen to them more than my teen who is seeking Jesus and has the Spirit of Christ within.

As leaders, we can fake it, we can feign confidence and train ourselves to preach with excellent words of eloquence. And we can even bring in business consultants and call it “building the kingdom” but… it’s just not.

Jesus exclusively does that… through whom he choses, and how he choses. Ministry then is what God gets out of our lives as we surrender and yield ourselves to Jesus Christ.

So then NO, women cannot be clergyman pastors, but then again, neither can men. Unless of course we take the role of pastor as the scripture defines it. An older mature elder in the Lord who is able to teach who leads a life of self control and who is able to disciple young Christians.

That role is all over in the New Testament filled by both men and women in different ways. It may not pay well, it may not have a salary attached to it. It’s not going to feed your ego, or the pride of our lives all that much. But it is there and it is world-changing and it is the most important job on planet earth.

The modern definition of pastor, the clergyman (or clergywoman) is not a thing of Jesus Christ. It is not a spiritually legitimate profession. It may fit well into Satan’s world system of religion. But I’m with Jesus exclusively and Jesus does not fill pastor-ships like that. We do, tradition does, we inherit and hand down the concept of clergy, a professional class of religious leaders. It never should have been adopted by Christian churches, but it was.

Clergymen attempt to orchestrate and control Christian gatherings and think it their responsibility to orchestrate what the Spirit of Jesus wants to orchestrate. Through all his followers together, one by one. They go in and out for us, telling us when to come in and sit down, when and what to “repeat after me”, when to stand up, sit down, and pay the tenth and stop the talking, they entertain us with song and eloquence of speech.

As they do this… as we demand they do this. I can’t help but believe that Jesus is watching shaking his head saying ‘no thanks, none of that.’ I can’t help but believe he’d prefer the little old lady in the back row with little to no money and who is not cool. And who has a gentle, meek demeanor, that she should take the microphone from the proud one on stage and teach and exhort the people.

Pastors are legitimate ministry gifts but our definition is not Jesus’ definition, nor Paul’s definition.

The truth is, God can, and does, and has used women to minister as much as men. Any person, male of female who is being led of the Spirit is a minister of Jesus Christ.

For more information about what real ministry is this teaching from T. Austin Sparks is second to none.

Devotions Coming In 2021

After praying and listening to the Lord today I’ve decided that in 2021 I plan to share a daily devotional on this blog. This will be the primary topic of this blog in 2021. However I may still post additional articles as I feel led by the Lord to do so.

The more I write and yield this blog to Jesus Christ the more I have to share.

Back in 2019 when I was posting daily, I remember wanting to post twice a day, it was like an open heaven as I sought the Lord and let the light shine. 2020 was a one post per week year but I experienced a surge in hits on the blog. The blog averages over 800 hits per month, which I am very pleased with.

Each devotion will have a thought along the lines of knowing Jesus Christ and dying daily to our own lives so that Jesus can be seen in our lives and others can believe.

I will share the title of these devotions before January 1st.

Each devotion will have a scripture reading and personal encouragements to the readers.

These devotions will be best read in groups of Jesus followers. The Sunday devotions will be longer and will be particularly aimed at groups. This is to help guide the sharing and conversation and constant refocusing on Jesus Christ that is necessary in good Jesus meetings.

All devotions can also be used for private devotional times.

I look forward to seeing what the spirit of Jesus has to share with us in 2021.

Thoughts on Suffering for Jesus Followers

Recently (January 2020) I had a bad experience with low blood sodium. It put me in the hospital overnight. It was a horrible experience. I suffered for about 12 hours before they were able to get my blood sodium levels up.

I sat in the ER for about an hour waiting to get relief. They had no open rooms. I felt desperate to escape the suffering. Praying to Jesus for help.

Then I heard a familiar voice.

It was the voice of an elderly woman calling out to Jesus. Groaning in pain, “help me Jesus.”

Frankly, her calls for help were very familiar, this is because they were what I was saying in my own mind. At that moment I had such a feeling of compassion for her. She had a younger woman with her who seemed to have absolutely no compassion for her. She just didn’t seem to understand or care.

I began to pray for her and it helped to take my mind off my own body.

This experience has me thinking about suffering. Trying to make sense of it, how does it fit into the plan of God?

I think Jesus set the pattern for his followers and part of that pattern includes suffering. There is even appointed a time for us to die. But then the resurrection. Suffering is temporary, it does a special work in us and it ends. Just like for Jesus Christ. Jesus prayed to avoid the suffering that was coming to him but the Father wanted him to experience it for a reason.

In the book of 1 Peter, Peter covers suffering for us. Suffering is a calling for us all. It’s not a sign of punishment or lack of faith. It’s part of the experience of a Jesus follower.

“TO THIS WE HAVE BEEN CALLED” – 1 Peter 2:2 The idea that 1 Peter 3,4 doesn’t apply to Christians today is inaccurate. The idea that Jesus did all our suffering so we don’t have to, is not in the New Testament, and it is an old attitude of the rich and elite of the world.

Fear is basically the dread and avoidance of suffering.

Instead I think God wants us to walk right into suffering by faith WITH Jesus Christ with our heads held high. Asking for healing expecting his help.

Periodic suffering is part of our calling. It’s normal, expect it, it’s ok, it is not heresy to say that suffering is ok.

“For what credit is it if, when you sin and are beaten for it, you endure? But if when you DO GOOD and SUFFER for it you ENDURE, this is a GRACIOUS thing in the SIGHT OF GOD (the only one who matters). For to this you have been called because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:20-21‬ ‭ESV‬‬

T. Austin Sparks is a British Bible teacher from the 50s thru the 70s who has a great 8-part series on suffering.

http://austin-sparks.net/audio_alpha.html

They are called, “Faith Unto Enlargement Through Adversity.”

If you are suffering, and can concentrate, listen to these teachings.

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