Christian believers meetings. Where two or more gathered in my name

The Meetings Themselves

The Long-Term Fruit of Christian Believers Meetings

The fruit of Christian believers meetings can be seen in the people who’ve been a part of them for decades.

I sometimes watch people, especially older people who’ve been a Christian for many years. Christian believers meetings should build and produce something wonderful within Christians over the years. Sometimes older Christians behave just as immature as someone who just became a Christian. Seeing this in one or two individuals is one thing. But seeing this across many churches and denominations shows something may be off. If this is seen all over the place and is the norm instead of the occasion. Then it is evidence that something is deeply wrong. Something deeply wrong with how these older Christians had been discipled for decades.

Christian believers meetings, as designed by the Lord, are meant to disciple Christians.

Its easy to be disgusted with older immature believers and wonder what’s wrong with their attitude. But its better to learn from them, respond to what they are showing us with behavior. See that behavior as our likely future if we don’t change course.

Be Spiritually Active

Spiritual activity is rarely teaching and leading people, which only a tiny minority of Christians engage in (the pastors or teachers).

There are only so many teachers needed when a sermon is the center of meetings. There are only so many children’s leaders and nursery workers necessary.

Even at the most active and churches with the highest numbers of volunteers, 20-30% of the people do all the work. With the pastor(s) themselves expected to earn their wage and do the most.

Even in the most active churches, the vast majority of people show up, sit and listen silently like at school. The serious and devout ones perhaps take notes, get to do announcements and shout ‘Amen’.

The Meetings Themselves

The meeting style Jesus and Paul showed us, if adhered to, is brilliant in many ways.

Below are nine ways Jesus meetings are designed for discipleship. I’ve learned these by periodically meeting this way myself and from others who routinely meet this way.

  1. The meeting itself provides spiritual activity for every person present. This spiritual activity trains us to hear from the Spirit of God within and in others. Open participatory sharing of Christ involve sharing, giving, speaking, singing, bringing something of Jesus to feed others.  (1 Cor 14:26)
  2. The meetings themselves facilitate ‘iron sharpening iron’ helping us to know how to handle conflict and remain loving. This alone deepens relationships like nothing else can. How many people have you attended church with for years yet barely know? You don’t sharpen them and they don’t sharpen you because you don’t interact, other than a passing greeting. (Prov 27:17)
  3. The meeting itself emboldens the shy to speak up and to share Christ. (2 Cor 4:13, Rom 16:16)
  4. The meetings themselves help the extrovert to periodically sit and listen to others and to not dominate. It helps them to appreciate God through the introvert (who won’t share unless trained and expected to). (Eph 5:21 “submit to one another”)
  5. The meetings themselves lighten the load of the pastor expected to be a religious superhero and often burn out after ~7 years. (Gal 6:2 “bear one another’s burdens”)
  6. The meetings themselves are the discipleship program of the spirit of Jesus Christ (John 14:26 “the spirit will teach you all things.”)
  7. The meetings provide provision for the poor members or visitors through the generosity of the members. (2 Cor 8:14) This is the real paying of tithe to the storehouse of God. The members themselves are the building stones of this house of God.
  8. The meetings themselves include every generation cooperating and learning from one another. Not one generation dominating or pushing out another based on age. (1Peter 5:5, 1 Tim 4:12)
  9. The meeting itself is evangelistic, when the unbeliever comes in and sees an active God speaking and operating through common people. “She will declare God is surely among you” and become a Christian. (1 Cor 14:25)

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Mistaken Vs. False Teachings

Is That False Teaching or Is He Just Mistaken?

There is a difference between how we should react to false teaching vs. mistaken teachings in churches and ministries. A mistaken teaching is accidental with good intent, sincere before God. False teachings however are knowingly sinful. False teachings intentionally divide and try to make a fool of certain people. They intentionally line themselves up under men who are not Jesus Christ for the purpose of divisions.

  • We are to listen to and forgive have a conversation around mistaken teachings, gently try to correct, help and discuss errors with a motive of love.
  • But we are to expose false teachings directly.

I see divisiveness is one of those to expose. It’s one thing to accidentally be divisive with good intent. It’s another to openly teach and encourage divisiveness.

Divisiveness today is emphasizing and taking pride in “doctrinal distinctions”. It is arguing against others not present or able to respond (usually with mic in hand). They get the last word because they are who they are and their opponent is not.  Divisive teaching is false teaching and it needs to be confronted.

“I follow this pastor or that denomination. I am of Paul, I am Calvinist, I am of Wesley, I am of the pope, I am orthodox, I am Pentecostal, I am of Apollos.”

Fleshly, jealousy motivation, using strife to gain and to keep your crowd.

“…you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men? For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men?”

1 Corinthians 3:3-4 NASB

The Dividers Won

If you study church history the dividers won over the vast majority of Christians, the divisions immediately began. To the point where we are one of the most fractured and divided religions on the planet. I believe Jesus himself is undoing this and uniting us again under himself. Its time to recover our oneness under only Jesus Christ. Every teacher/ ministry who undermines this and openly intentionally divides his people will not be well with the Lord.

Christian believers meetings. Where two or more gathered in my name

Colossal Waste of Time

No Greater Waste

I can think of no greater waste of our time and opportunity here on earth than the following: To substitute the first-hand experience with Jesus Christ for the intellectual topic of Jesus Christ.

Its like having a birthday party for a person but not inviting the person. We talk about how wonderful the person is yet don’t invite them or enjoy their presence.

By our tradition we have reduced him to a subject, a topic, a sermon, a chapter of intellectual religious entertainment.

This is substituting the presence of God for man-made religion. It is a starving person substituting talk about eating dinner with eating the turkey dinner sitting in front of her.

Jesus Christ can be known and seen and expressed through face to face meetings. As each member speaks and declares Christ and makes him known he himself is seen and heard. Sermons with intros, three points and a conclusion can substitute for his presence. His presence which speaks through whomever he wishes, however he wishes.

Jesus Christ is a now a life-giving Spirit, he is not a distant religious idea.  He exists, he is active, he is doing things. He can communicate and interact with us and he has a will for us knowing him.

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Is Jesus just a great idea to you or is he a real and living person interacting and guiding you?

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