Avoiding Discipleship …if that’s what you want.

Gathering to sit as an audience to hear great sermons and pay into the offering plate in every meeting allows Christians to assemble, display loyalty to a pastor while:

• avoiding discipleship
• avoiding letting our “light shine”
• avoiding face to face love of other Christians.

If that’s what a Christian wants to do. If that’s how we choose to hide while keeping a clear conscience… then its a great system.

A Way To Know If A Group is Following Christ

A test whether a person or group is (or is not) following Christ closely, is that they are able to put up with people they disagree with.

Fleshly, human, religious love just can not tolerate someone who disagrees with them, they want them silenced, ignored, and finally OUT.

Friendships end, the person is pushed away, and it quickly becomes hate if they disagree with them too directly.

Over time in groups any conflict is hated, and greatly feared, submissive compliant non-thinkers become priceless, (and then it evolves into only the compliant ones who bring money who have any value in a group). Compliance and money become the way to favor and promotion with “the leaders.”

This is human religion.

Hence Protestant denominationalism…

These behaviors do not emerge from Jesus Christ!!, instead they come from the evil one.

Over time the type of people promoted within a group determines its culture, more than anything else.

Is your “church” filled with compliant, shallow, unthinking and exclusive people? That should seem strange because our Lord Jesus is thoughtful, independent and accepting and forgiving. He walks right up to conflict without fear and with boldness, so should we. He directly taught against hierarchy.

This post was paraphrased from Dietrich Bonhoeffer in his book Life Together.

Transferring Skills Between Kingdoms

“All the cockiness and arrogance you’ve seen me use, God is now using for him.” Kanye West with Joel Osteen at Lakewood church.

God using my greatness for himself. This way of thinking is the foundation of ministry today in our Sunday-stage church system.

Whoever has or is discipling Kanye is deeply in error.

In a sentence: “Take your abilities and apply them to ministry, then proudly proclaim its God doing it. To the cheers of the kids.”

It makes God tiny and controllable. That’s what religion does. It brings God down and it creates haughty stage performers, singers, speakers, and even dancers.

Just because I get crowds of fans does not mean God is using me, now please set down the mic.

I know this because of the life and teachings Jesus and in the New Testament we see NOTHING like this, we actually see the opposite of this. What we see going on with Kanye and Joel Osteen is what we saw in the pagan Greek religions during Jesus’ day.

Sophists at Mars hill in Acts 17 – modern sermons

Stadium religious shows/ performances – the colesium

The most used apostles were first “killed off” for long amounts of time, even Paul was set aside from ministry for 14 years, as they were reshapen for later use.

Becoming a Christian is an absolute death to everything you think you are good at. Represented and symbolized by water baptism.

“You can lead huh? Ok go sit and lead no one for 2 decades.”

“You got money huh? Ok go give it all away I want none of it, do this first then I’ll talk to you.”

“You can sing and dance huh? well we ALL sing here, no mics, no stages, if you will follow me you’ll need to let that go.”

Then later (maybe much later) …Jesus may use us, IF he wants to, and exactly how he wants to.

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